The Limits of Self Knowledge

24 June 2016

This week, we’re examining the limits of self-knowledge. That is, we’ll be asking how well we really know ourselves. There’s a long tradition in philosophy, of course, of thinking that we actually know ourselves quite well. Descartes, who has a reasonable claim to be the founder of this tradition, apparently thought that we had infallible and complete knowledge of everything going on in our minds. And he is certainly not the only philosopher to think that. Moreover, commonsense seems to agree with Descartes too. Suppose I want to know what I think or feel or plan do. I don’t have to consult some fancy expert or do some elaborate experiment. I don't have to consult some third party. I just need to do a little reflection and introspection.

Of course, Freud taught us long ago that it’s not that simple. Many of our beliefs and desires are hidden from us. They’re repressed, locked up in the unconscious. And it can take some pretty expensive therapy to ferret them out. No doubt, Freud’s theory of the unconscious has definitely had a huge influence in all sorts of fields, from psychology, to philosophy, to art and literature. There’s just one problem with it. It’s false -- totally unsupported by scientific evidence. However, although Freud’sparticularview of the unconscious may be false, there’s a ton of evidence that we don’t know ourselves as well as we think.

就拿我们自己的情绪来说吧。其实我现在心情很好。I’m blogging for中国伊朗亚洲杯比赛直播. Hopefully lots of people will read what I write and make some sharp coments. What could be better? And I know that I’m not just making that all up in order to put myself in a better mood. But although people are good at knowingwhatmood they’re in, but not so good at knowingwhy. Here’s a little experiment for you. Take a bunch a people and ask them to keep track of their mood changes over time. Then ask them to explain thecausesof their mood changes. They’ll talk about their stress levels or workloads or the amount of sleep they got or the weather or day of the week. Now those may seem like perfectly plausible explanations. I know rainy days and Mondays do tend to get down. But when you do the measurements and gather some actual statistical data, it turns out there’s very little correlation between our mood swings and things like the day of the week or the state of the weather.

现在的说法并不是说人们只是凭空编造了他们情绪变化的原因。例如,有时我们会抓住现成的文化模因来解释自己。我在最后一段写了。引用这些现成的文化模因让我们觉得我们了解自己,即使我们并不了解自己。

Just to be clear, I am not claiming that people know absolutelynothing关于自己情绪的原因。想想我们是如何知道别人情绪的原因的。例如,我很擅长预测我妻子和儿子的情绪。我很久以前就学会了在早上,在他们洗澡或吃一顿丰盛的早餐之前,和他们保持距离。通过内省,我显然不知道所有这些。相反,我和他们一起生活了很长时间。这些年来,我观察到了一些规律。我像科学家一样接近他们。我采用了一种超然的、第三人称的、实验性的观点。这里有一些关于了解自己的建议。 Do the same with yourself. That is, look at yourself the way that an objective, outside, third-person observer would. It’s a little like Flannery O’Conner, who said “I don’t know what I think until I read what I write.”

我知道这可能看起来有点反,如果你必须知道你在写之前的想法,它可能看起来。但我认为奥康纳有一个非常深刻的观点。我们喜欢认为我们只通过审视自己的内心,通过内省的反思来了解自己的思想。但事实并非如此。

But once we admit that, we do seem to have a problem – a pretty deep problem. We live and experience our lives in thefirst人称,不要用第三人称。Lived experience is about how weseemto ourselves. If the way we seem to ourselves is so out of synch with how we really are, doesn't that mean that we’re mostly being buffeted about by forces over which we have no real control, and into which we may have no real insight? That’s why it matters whether we really know ourselves.

So why not listen in this week and help us figure out exactly how wide the gap between the way weappearto ourselves and the way we actuallyare,really is.

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Guest

Tuesday, October 8, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

When I was much younger and

当我还小得多,没有考虑到自我认识的时候,这些都不重要。后来,在我20多岁和30多岁的时候,我看到了一些可能超越年轻时轻率行为的东西。大约在55岁的时候,我的大脑终于开始发育,思考宝马之外的现实和党派政治终于安顿下来。自知之明有一些局限性——其中大部分是自我强加的。如果我们不能超越家人和同龄人的期望,自我认识就会局限于这些边界。我认为像笛卡尔这样的智者值得一读。但是,他们现在已经死了。世界已经大不相同了,你觉得呢?

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MJA

Wednesday, October 9, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

Self-knowledge

Self-knowledge
Out of love One day I reduced myself down to just I and found that I was no different than a river, Nature, or the Universe. I found that I as is Nature is truly equal and immeasurable or One and the same.
And as the Universe is infinite, the knowledge of I am too.
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Fred Griswold

Wednesday, October 9, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

Discussions like this always

Discussions like this always seem like a mass of unrelated details to me. You never get a sense of how the self holds together, even though the self must be a little more coherent than that. Maybe you're wrong if you believe that rainy days and Mondays get you down, but that doesn't tell you much. If the self is really so scattered and disorganized, if we could be so wrong about our own motivations, then how could the species be so evolutionally viable?

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Guest

Thursday, October 10, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

I recall reading a long time

我记得很久以前读到过一篇文章,一项对某县数千起交通事故的研究显示,75%的事故发生在气压下降的时候(在可用时间中所占的比例相对较小)。我不确定情绪或天气状况在多大程度上起了主要作用,但这个数据让我震惊。

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Laura Maguire

Wednesday, October 16, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

Sorry folks - we had to reset

Sorry folks - we had to reset our website this week, so any comments made after Sunday were lost.

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Guest

Wednesday, October 23, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

Descartes was a down-right

Descartes was a down-right fool, he didn't know what he was going on about.

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Guest

Saturday, October 26, 2013 -- 5:00 PM

We can think about a thought

We can think about a thought we just had. Then, we can think about that thought we just had about that thought we just had...... How long have we been able to do this?

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Harold G. Neuman

Tuesday, June 28, 2016 -- 5:00 PM

There has been much

There has been much psychobabble regarding the quantity known as CONSCIOUSNESS over the last 10-15 years or so. As many of us who are interested in this know, Daniel Dennett wrote something titled Consciousness Explained. Subsequently, Allan Combs penned: Consciousness Explained Better. Others delve into the somewhat murky waters and try to enlighten us further on the subject. Now, I do not pretend to know whether mind springs from brain or was there, in the ether somewhere, before brain ever existed in its corporeality. What seems likely to me, however, is that brain provides the platform upon which mind may develop and achieve its full potential (in those of us who place value upon that eventuality). CONSCIOUSNESS, then, and in its turn, enables us to recognize that self-knowledge may be possible, even desirable. That is where our journey begins and where we begin to ask all the kinds of questions that would have been irrelevant, had we never been conscious enough to ask them. It is forever interesting, disturbing, baffling, frustrating and delightful---being human. And that's what its all about. Are there truly limits to self-knowledge? Or have we merely convinced ourselves that there must be?
Neuman

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Gary M Washburn

Wednesday, June 29, 2016 -- 5:00 PM


Or, Consciousness Explained Away*. Oddly, you can't infer the ethos of a community by looking for it in its individuals or in specific groups of individuals. Same problem with mind. It's precisely because we can't locate it that we can know it. Not so great an enigma, really. The only mystery is why we ignore this.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness_Explained