Playful Intentions and the Problem of the Hypno-Flirt
Guest Contributor

11 August 2007

posted byCarrie Jenkins

Hi all - and thanks Ken and John for the invitation to be on the show today and to write for this blog.

I liked Ken's Gricean point about the flirter requiring the intention that his/her intention be recognized by the flirtee, and I just wanted to follow up on that a bit. One case I at first thought this promised to help with is the case of the "hypno-flirt" (which was first suggested to me by David Wall at the Australian National University). The hypno-flirt is a mad scientist who playfully and knowingly inserts electrodes into your brain with the intention of stimulating those parts of the brain which will cause you to think about having sex with her. There's some reason to doubt she's flirting, but if all she needs is the playfulness, the knowingness, and the intentions I talk about in my paper (plus the belief that the subject can respond, e.g. with the appropriate beliefs and perhaps emotions), then she ought to count as flirting.

However, one thing lacking from this case is the intention that her intentions be recognized by the subject. So I though maybe introducing your requirement would deal with the case. But then I thought, one could complicate the case so that the hypno-flirt now also stimulates the required parts of the subject's brain to make him believe that she has the intention to make him think about sex with her. It's still a bit uncomfortable to say she is flirting.

因此,我还不确定如何解决“催眠调情”的问题,尽管我怀疑我的描述可能需要一些复杂的东西。这个案例,我认为,提出了一些和你的“危险的桥梁”案例相同的问题,与将浪漫/性凸显出来的方法的偏差或不标准有关。但我还不确定,总的来说,一个调情者需要有这样的意图,即她想要突出浪漫/性的意图得到认可。我认为我可以通过做一些我知道会让他觉得我有多可爱的事情来调情,即使我知道(并且打算)他没有意识到我在做什么。

Suppose I decide to bat my eyelids at Clueless Clive, knowing that he will as a result think of me in a slightly more sexualized way than before, but that because he's so clueless he will have no idea why his attitude to me has changed. If my partner then accuses me of flirting with Clueless Clive, he's got a point. But I certainly agree that in typical cases of flirtation this intention that one's intention be recognized is present.

(Incidentally, I don't know who told you I was an "expert flirter", but personally I'd put myself more at the Pepe Le Pew end of the spectrum than the Brigitte Bardot end ... )

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Saturday, August 11, 2007 -- 5:00 PM

I think I'm a hypno-flirt. LOL.

I think I'm a hypno-flirt. LOL.

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Alex

Saturday, August 11, 2007 -- 5:00 PM

不错的职位。我很喜欢你的风格。BTW, I run a

不错的职位。我很喜欢你的风格。顺便说一句,我经营一个成人约会文章目录,如果你有一些调情文章分发,你非常欢迎张贴他们。
Regards,
Alex
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Guest

Friday, August 31, 2007 -- 5:00 PM

不是我错过了什么,就是你错过了什么。i think w

不是我错过了什么,就是你错过了什么。我认为我们需要在这里包括心理学理论,当我们这样做的时候,我们必须检验这个理论:女人不像哲学家那样思考!他们迷上了神秘,可能在与他们无法定义的事物调情。如果性是由伴侣的意图提出的,那么女人很可能会因为害怕被利用而逃跑。女人不会为了阴茎注射而追求男人。她们追求男人是为了爱和安全感。性爱可能会在爱情发生之后发生。他们希望我们男人也这样做,这当然是不可能的。这是一个不对称的游戏。生活是粗糙! what can i say? opinions?

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Guest

Friday, February 19, 2010 -- 4:00 PM

I loved the flirting references to that all-time

我喜欢对那个一直在调情的人,保罗·格赖斯的调情手法。
He actually has an example resembling the neural flirter, in his "Method in philosophical psychology". As he would suggest, it would not count as flirting because the recognition of the intention needs to be a reason, and NOT just a 'cause'.
Compiments are like flirts. I discussed this in "And the implicature was SEX" in GriceClub.blogspots -- where all are invited to join in. J. L. Speranza,jlsperanza@aol.com.

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 -- 5:00 PM

Still wondering how can I be a "hypno-flirt" just

Still wondering how can I be a "hypno-flirt" just curious how it works. lol
cletsey