Your Comment: A World Without Work

09 October 2017

We're continuing to get some great responses to our recent show,A World Without Work, including this email from Paul R. Thanks, Paul, for your comments! If you have questions or comments on a show, feel free to send us an email atcomments@philosophytalk.org我们可能会在博客上介绍它。

1.在你(或某人)决定没有工作世界将如何运转之前,你(或某人)需要决定如何养活每个人。几年前,我在一些受人尊敬的科学、健康和地理杂志上读了一些东西——从一篇文章中,我知道了你应该吃多少某种鱼(如果我没记错的话,每周2次);另一篇关于海洋中这种鱼的总数;另一个问题是地球上有多少人。简单的数学运算就可以得出这样一个事实:如果每个人为了保持最佳健康,都吃了推荐量的这种鱼,假设你可以收获所有你需要的鱼,一年之内这些鱼就会全部被吃掉,消耗掉资源。(嗯,我想我已经可以找到一些这类事情的实际历史例子了……)

2. Don't forget that we don't just need a basic income; if we have serious health problems (this is for all of us, now, because no one know how "if" is going to turn out), we need healthcare and not just basic healthcare. So how does who, get to decide who gets what?

3. If we somehow succeed in freeing all from the necessity of work and we guarantee health (not to mention housing with heat, air, plumbing, a little garden, etc. ...), a lot of people are going to have a lot of free time to somehow pursue their dreams--I think a lot of copulation will fit in there and if the past is a guide at all, there pretty soon is going to be a lot of extra people available to need more of #1 and #2.

The basic problem of sharing all this wealth is that we actually are running out of the wealth of the planet already (per capita, I mean, not that each capita is currently getting her or his actual "per," so to speak). Early stages here, perhaps, but there are focal areas where this has been and is occurring already (check the news). Star Trek had an episode where everyone on a planet got a fair share of everything on the planet and--death itself having been eliminated--they all ended up with about a square meter of space and enough nondescript nutrition to simply keep them alive. If memory serves, their solution was to invite germs from the Star Trek vessel into their planet to reintroduce mortality (you can guess how they did that; just note that seamen (you know, men of the sea, so to speak) have been doing that kind of thing for centuries just in parts of our own little world).

I wish I had some answers but the only one that I am fairly certain of is that any plan for distributing resources (including all of our current capricious and mostly unfair ones) needs to get to a way of having fewer people on the planet or, in the long run, we're going to have some kind of planet like the Star Trek one (though maybe not with equal distribution). Let's see, now (this is an aside), commercial tomatoes and strawberries in this country have already pretty much arrived at the nondescript nutrition object state even now. Though in some spare time perhaps someone should investigate whether the nutrition part of those objects actually did survive their commoditization...

Oh, and thanks for your Philosophy Talk show. Love it.

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Harold G. Neuman

Wednesday, October 11, 2017 -- 2:59 PM

Well, you have posted my

好吧,你已经发布了我对这个帖子的评论。我想是的。保罗令人钦佩地在经济上涵盖了这个问题;心理;社会学和政治学,我是不是错过了一门学科?无论如何,有工作和没有工作的问题是棘手的。我们学什么就是什么。从基因上讲,我们是遗传的;社会上;文化上等等。 In a nutshell, we ARE what we LEARN. And, regardless of how we proceed from THAT basis, there is no progress other than that which has been prescribed. This site has asked questions about a number of intractable issues, including racism and cognitive bias (which I have characterized as learned behavior). All (or much) of the work ethic which is so valiantly worshiped stems from the entirety of progress, which, again, we have been taught is the WAY of civilized homo sapiens. I do not dispute the gains we have achieved. Nor do I contend that there be some specific limit(s).But, as Eastwood famously said in one of his Dirty Harry movies: a man's got to know his limitations. And, as Wilber said more than once in his works: and just so. I'm enjoying a book right now entitled: THE HUMAN AGE. It deals with various current dilemmas we face, and some we'd rather not acknowledge. The Anthropocene era. Hmmmm.