Confessions of a Conflicted Carnivore
Daniel Mullin

12 December 2013

Since the next episode of中国伊朗亚洲杯比赛直播是关于道德的要求,我想分享下面这篇我去年写在博客上的文章。许多哲学家,包括我自己在内,都在食物选择这一领域感受到道德的要求。但是,我们能在多大程度上向普通人提出这些要求呢?这篇文章试图找到一个中间立场,结果可能谁也不满意。尽管如此,我还是希望它能提供思想食粮(对不起,我忍不住)。

I recently participated in thisonline pollabout the eating habits of philosophers. I voted as a carnivore — more accurately omnivore — who views his diet as ethically problematic. I think it’s safe to say that there is a higher percentage of vegetarians among philosophers than other academics or thegeneral public. My mentor in philosophy was a vegetarian for a combination of health and ethical reasons. Although 69% of the respondents to the poll identified as carnivores, 37% of them worried that their eating habits were ethically problematic.

The ethical argument against eating meat has been made most famously by Peter Singer. He argues along utilitarian lines that it is wrong to increase suffering unnecessarily. Killing and eating sentient animals, i.e. animals capable of experiencing pain, does increase suffering unnecessarily. Therefore, it is wrong to kill and eat sentient animals.

I’m of two minds on this subject. I sometimes do worry about the pain inflicted on animals in the factory farm system. The mass production that enables us to have affordable meat no doubt increases the suffering of animals. However, the ethical difficulties surrounding factory farming don’t necessarily impugn meat-eatingper se. For example, one could simply consume meat that is raised on small production farms. The animals arguably enjoy a decent life until they become food. It’s also more likely that the animals are slaughtered humanely in this context. After all, it isn’t the killing itself that utilitarians find objectionable; it’s suffering. We euthanize animals painlessly everyday and don’t seem to have any ethical qualms about it.

However, the ethical vegetarian might reply that animals that are sufficiently sentient — i.e. animals sufficiently like us — are subjects of a life. Therefore, even if they are killed painlessly, the ending of their life, as a means to an end, is wrong. Here we’re straying from utilitarianism into deontology. I confess, I do worry about eating animals like pigs and cows more than I do about chicken and fish (not to mention shrimps, scallops, oysters, etc. which seem to be pretty far down the sentience scale). I’m not sure how self-aware the average lobster is. Nevertheless, there is an argument here for sparing the higher animals. But one could be a selective carnivore and conceivably still be ethical.

Some carnivores defend meat-eating by saying that domestic animals in most cases have a better life than they would in the wild. I don’t find this argument very persuasive, however, because these animals, at least in their domesticated form, wouldn’t exist if we didn’t use them for food. Non-existence is not necessarily an evil and existence isn’t necessarily a good. If I hadn’t been born, obviously I couldn’t be happy or sad about it. However, if I had been born under different circumstances, for example, in which I experienced intense suffering, that might be worse than non-existence. So I don’t find that particular pro-carnivore argument very convincing.

Having said that, I still eat meat, even if I am somewhat ethically dubious about it. Currently, I’m on a dairy and gluten free diet for health reasons, and giving up something else in my diet would require a lot more moral motivation than I have. For me, this is the crux of the matter: I’d rather people invest their moral effort in remedying other evils that I think are much worse than animal suffering. Maybe I’m being ‘speciesist’ to use Singer’s term. So be it. I think human suffering does trump concern about lower animals. At the risk of sounding as though I’m defending the factory farm system, mass production does make meat affordable and were that to disappear overnight, the cost of meat would skyrocket. This would disproportionately impact the least well-off in our society for whom, I suspect, meat makes up a great deal of the nutrition in their diet. Some vegetarians may think that the suffering of animals is such a great evil and dismantling the system such a moral imperative that it’s worth the human and economic costs. I’m just not as convinced as they are.

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Sunday, December 22, 2013 -- 4:00 PM

Thanks for your interesting

谢谢你对这个话题的有趣想法。我也一直在与吃肉的道德准则作斗争。许多年前,我读了辛格的观点,决定成为素食主义者;但后来我发现,对我来说,问题不在于以动物的生命为食,而在于传统/工厂化养殖方式造成的不必要的痛苦。我很难理解为什么有人会为今天的工业化动物养殖方法辩护,因为它在动物的整个生命和屠宰过程中施加了痛苦,包括剥夺自然条件和与其他动物的社会交往,肮脏的围栏,身体虐待,草率和不人道的电击和屠宰技术(人道屠宰法经常被忽视),在动物还在踢和意识的时候就进行肢解,等等。当然,还有过度使用抗生素和激素来加速和促进增长,生产线上缺乏卫生,典型的无证工人不得不在欺凌的条件下工作,以及工业规模的环境退化。这一制度残忍地剥削了数百万动物,把它们当作食物对待,对它们来说,即使是最低限度的人道条件也很少被考虑到。考虑到其他形式的蛋白质是很容易获得的,包括有机/人道饲养的肉,虽然更贵,但如果少吃(这碰巧符合医疗机构的建议),我不认为让中等收入的人保持廉价的肉类是一个有价值的目的,足以让他们承受如此多的痛苦。由于这些原因,我仍然吃肉,但只是偶尔吃肉,而且是有机的或通过其他方式认证为人道饲养的。我也吃非养殖的鱼,因为它们在被捕捞前也可以享受自然条件,基本上没有痛苦。

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Daniel Mullin

Tuesday, January 7, 2014 -- 4:00 PM

Thanks for your thoughts on

谢谢你对这个问题的看法,罗宾。我认为我们在饮食习惯及其背后的基本原理方面基本一致。

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Tim Smith

Saturday, February 8, 2014 -- 4:00 PM

I became a vegan (with no

I became a vegan (with no nuts or oil in my diet) a little over two years ago. I did this for health reasons but the ethical arguments have taken new meaning for me now that I've committed to a vegan diet. I found it hard to change over initially but after a couple months I lost my hankering for meat and oil based foods (oil by far is harder to hone than meat believe me.)
Singer's arguments take on new meaning when you consider the politic of food production. Hunger is rampant and man made. There is food for all if we all would just eat lower on the food chain. If I were to posit to you that this is true - does that give you more moral motivation? If eating meat were taking food from other human beings instead of humanely slaughtering animals does that give you reason to reconsider your diet? I don't think you are afforded the luxury of being spiciest when it comes to eating resource intensive proteins like meat and dairy - when there are millions of humans who are deprived of any protein in order to fill your supermarket.
I don't think moral motivation is lacking when people eat meat. When people slaughter animals their adrenaline runs high. It's a stressful occupation and heavy task. If we had to do it ourselves - we all would eat less meat. Instead I think it's a gastronomical inertia induced by the industry of our food production. Once you are free of this ... and it took me a little over two months... it's liberating and transcendent. It's cliche but you do have to be the change here. No moral argument can win in a knock down with your gut without heavy consideration.
Your moral arguments here only go half way - then you summarily dismiss them in light of greater moral evils to fight. If you take the moral argument all the way - that meat production causes hunger and suffering in fellow human beings - I put it to you that it becomes a worthy moral effort to stop eating animal products. I would explore your dubious feelings here. Where there is smoke there is fire.
There are few things more personal than diet. Criticizing someone else's diet is a low blow and affront to their liberty. Thank you for writing this very personal note. I just wanted to share my own odyssey more than anything. I never would have thought I could give up meat until I did. Now that I have... I don't know why I didn't do it years ago.